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btw, braucht wer eine scomadi 200?
2 schnäppchen auf wh

1x von scooter um schlanke 5800,- :
https://www.willhaben.at/iad/gebrauchtw ... 192247375/

es geht aber noch besser via privat um 7400,-
viel spaß kann das teil ja nicht machen bei 2017 angemeldet und schon wieder verkauf
https://www.willhaben.at/iad/gebrauchtw ... 224672116/


so als latte
da fahrt man schon echtes motorrad, statt gebrandetem asien roller um das geld
die yamaha MT-03 supermotard mit 42ps kostet neu 4999,-
https://www.yamaha-motor.eu/at/products ... mt-03.aspx
und ist ein ziemlich gelungenes cooles teil, gefällt mir deutlich besser als die orangen ktm faschingskrapfen
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Was für ein Deppenvergleich.

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was kost denn ein SH 350i neu ?
da krieg ich auch schon a paar guate Radln dafür.

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Wenn sich wer den Hanway RA Blechroller mit Rotax LC Motor von der Eicma 2017 anschauen will:
Der weisse 125er steht bei uns.

10,5kw bei ca 120kg.
Preis was bei 4.500,-

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gibt´s für Österreicher eigentlich kein "6-Gang Schaltroller" Angebot aus Steyr ?

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freakmoped hat geschrieben:
da fahrt man schon echtes motorrad, statt gebrandetem asien roller um das geld
die yamaha MT-03 supermotard mit 42ps kostet neu 4999,-
https://www.yamaha-motor.eu/at/products ... mt-03.aspx
und ist ein ziemlich gelungenes cooles teil, gefällt mir deutlich besser als die orangen ktm faschingskrapfen
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geil!

da muss i mir gleich a orange ktm kaufen!

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Neuer elektro proto
Ob aus der ansage was wird..
https://scooterlab.uk/world-exclusive-f ... Dj8_TKflGo

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Wie ging eigentlich b die 300er crowdfundi g geschichte aus?
147 leute haben 27% der angepeilten 300er finanziert

http://mobile.thecrowdfundingcenter.com ... ?id=XCT75N

Zitat:
CLOSED
Scomadi 300cc Scooter - An Iconic Modern Classic
On the last day - ALL 100 hand build Scomadi 300's for June 2015 delivery have gone! Thank you
PROJECT OWNER

Stephen Paxton
Preston, United Kingdom
2 Campaigns
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£53,581 GBP raised by 147 backers
About €59,855 EUR
26% of £200,000
flexible goal




https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/scom ... -classic#/


Zitat:
Thank you for visiting!
Welcome to this exciting opportunity, you'll be very glad you found us...

Now, we have a lot to talk about but first, who are we and what do we want to do?

Who Are We?
Scomadi Ltd is a British Company registered in 2005.

Formed through the partnership between Frank Sanderson of Scooter Innovation Ltd and Paul Melici of PM Tuning Ltd who between them have over 60 years of experience in the scooter industry.

They have created this new scooter based on the iconic styling of the Series 3 Lambretta scooter models.

The idea behind the brand was originally started in a garden shed by asking the question “How can we make a classic scooter capable of doing what modern scooters can do today?"

The solution? "Lets build “A Modern Classic”"
The truth is that many scooterists love the look and feel that the classic scooter style has to offer but unfortunately modern day riding dictates the need for a scooter that is better suited to the congested pot holed filled roads of today.

So now, at the close of 2014 and with your help, they want to build on the 50cc model created from this idea and already in production and make it bigger and better.

6 times better to be exact.



Introducing the NEW Scomadi 300cc Scooter "A Modern Classic"



The new 300cc is to become the future of iconic looking scooters, with the build and reliability of modern day vehicles.

With your help Scomadi will be able to put this model into full production and create something that will go down in the history books as a true great.

--- Update note on quantities available ---

We have had a number of enquires as to how many scooter will be available in June 2015. To set things straight the first 100 will be available by June 2015. The 150 number is a typo on our part which when done could not be changed. The reason we couldn’t correct the error is that as soon as an order is placed the sales board is frozen and you can’t adjust it….and as soon as we went live we had a pledges right way so it was frozen, this is done to stop adjustments after people have pledged and potentially caused issues. We should have caught this but we didn’t so it is what it is. We will put a note on the site today to clear this up. Thank you. The 100 in June will be the first production standard 300’s so anyone buying these will be in the first “100 group”.

Following the June run a further wave of production 300cc Scooters will be available starting around 3 months after this.

From October 2015 we are offering a limited edition of 100 “Signature Series 300 Scooter’s”. These unique scooters are individually hand tuned and come with a performance exhaust, Fuel mapping and filter systems, sports suspension and adjustable braking as well as your very own personal colour scheme. They will come with a unique serial numbered plaque on them donating the limited edition “Signature Series and will be hand signed by the co-founders. If you require a full spec on these then please let us know by email, maybe give us your number and we can call you if you prefer. Always happy to try and clear queries up.





--- What Is Our Goal? ---

Our goal in this is simple - to raise enough funding to put the 300cc into full production and making it available to the masses in quicker time. We are able to make the Scooters in small quantities but with the your help we can make them in the quataties needed and faster too.

We have thought about this long and hard and using our extensive knowledge of the business we know that if we can raise £200,000 we will be able to get this modern icon into full production and into people's hands.



The idea behind the IndieGoGo campaign - to see if the scooter community would get behind and support us so we would be able to produce more and faster to meet demands by the public. You will appreciate we are a small company and don’t have the deep pockets of other larger automotive companies. However, with or without the support of the IndieGoGo campaign the Scooters will be getting built and delivered – that is certain.


How Can You Help?
In order to do this we wanted to make this campaign something very special to be a part of.

So not only will you be helping make this 300cc model a reality but you will also have the chance to take a home pieces of EXCLUSIVE and LIMITED EDITION memorabilia - anything from a keyring or shirt, right the way through to the first ever Scomadi production prototype built in carbon (300cc model)

Here are just a few of the perks we have on offer - make sure you check all the others out, we have made sure there is something for everyone, no matter what level of involvement you can offer.





SANTA POD - The Home of European Drag Racing – A great Christmas idea for anyone.!



The ultimate track day event for bikers/scooterists. Santa Pod is the most famous drag racing track outside America, attracting the best drivers and race teams in European Drag Racing. Affectionately known as the 'POD', Santa Pod is the place to race! Few motorsport venues can offer such thrilling 'close to the action'

Tucked away in the corner of Northwest Bedfordshire is one of the most famous racetracks in the world - Santa Pod Raceway.

There will be a VIP Scomadi marquee, corporate hospitality and a range of new scooters to view and some insights to what’s planned in the future. The founders will be on hand to answer all your questions.

Take a performance tuned 125cc and 300cc down the ¼ mile strip (2 or 3 runs depending on time and weather).

Have this recorded for a memory of the day. Also win a prize for the fastest time! If the weather permits watch a Scomadi go for a world ¼ mile record attempt.

What a great present, or why not treat yourself, it’s one of the PERKS - £300 for an unforgettable day at the “POD”. Book yours now.

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Two new “ProArt” Perks available now

The Scomadi 300 posed on a bridge and a picture of a Scomadi at Santa Pod, fantastic ProArt, These would look fantastic on any wall, check out the perks now.




Original Carbon Scomadi 250cc Scooter - Serial Number 1 (£29,000)



You Really Will Make a Difference
Anything you can contribute towards the goal will help bring this modern classic to production, you really will be a part of something that will be talked about for years to come, we appreciate each and ever donation that brings us all closer to our goal.

Thank you all for reading and we hope you can get involved - please feel free to share this with anyone and everyone that you know, even if you don't contribute the word of mouth will make the world of difference.

Use the share tools made available to you on IndieGoGo, post on your Facebook, Tweet about it and tell your friends, Scooter Clubs and Family...

Let's make history!
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und die angekündigten scomadi mit 300er gts und aucj 350er beverly motor?

gabs da was in real oder nur als idee
auf willhaben wurden ja bereits fahrzeuge inseriert
oder war das eher projektidee und dann erst bei anzahlung..


https://www.sqooter.com/page/scomadi

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Scomadi TL300
Die 300er bauen wir! Das ist kein Roller von der Stange! Hier kommt die komplette Technik der Vespa GTS 300 ABS Euro4 zum Einsatz. Die wiederum aus nagelneuen Vespa GTS 300 aus 2018/19 stammen, weil diese auf Elektromotoren umgebaut werden. Das ist übrigens auch ein Produkt aus unseren Ideen.


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zum kauf wirds jedenfalls angeboten:
https://www.sqooter.com/shop/product/sco300-scomadi-turismo-leggera-300-141106

Zitat:
Scomadi Turismo Leggera 300
7.999,00 €

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andreas schwarz (kurier) macht eine punktlandung: "Das Netz ist nicht nur Tummelplatz für pathologische Poster, die ihrem kleingeistigen Hass auf was auch immer freien Lauf lassen, sondern auch Schauplatz für eine Aufgeregtheit in allen Belangen, die vorgibt, die Wahrheit zu vertreten, ohne auch nur einen Funken von ihr zu kennen Check, Recheck, Double Check, diese journalistische Tugend aus prähistorischen Medienzeiten, ist systemwidrig: Raus mit der Meinungssau..."
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Zuletzt geändert von freakmoped am 06.01.2019 - 18:16, insgesamt 2-mal geändert.

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eine neue 2018er idee wie es scheint
ist ein 450er schaltroller

gsf topic dazu mit reservierungsliste:

https://www.germanscooterforum.de/topic ... altroller/

Zitat:
450cc Viertakt Motor (EURO4) mit Kette auf Hinterrad, Motor hat Motorleistung 43PS und wird nicht gedrosselt. Was schließlich hinten ankommt kann man noch nicht genau sagen.
(z.B. eingesetzt in der Fantic Caballero)


Zitat:
Also Ron von Sqooter.com hat Scomadi Deutschland übernommen und baut den Vertrieb hier gerade neu auf. Es wird dann so 10-15 Scomadi Händler deutschlandweit geben.

Bezüglich Ersatzteilversorgung abseits Gewährleistung etc. steht Ron mit einem sehr großen Rollerteileversand, den jeder kennt, in Verhandlung, hier gibt es auch schon eine Zusage.




https://www.sqooter.com/page/scomadi

Zitat:
Scomadi Motorroller
Hier finden Sie alles zw. 50 und 300cc!
Die 400cc kommt nicht vor 2020! Dafür der Blechschaltroller TT 450!

Robuste Technik aus jahrelanger Erfahrung klassischer Roller gepaart mit modernen Motoren.Die Marke Scomadi stellt genau hier den Anspruch der Mitbewerber zu Vespa zu sein!

Auf die Idee sind zwei Engländer gekommen. Sie bauten in den letzten 10/12 Jahren Lambretta um sodass ein Automatik Motor (meist Vespa Piaggio Vespa 250 bzw 300GTS) in den Rahmen passten. Jetzt kommt ein völlig neues Fahrzeug auf dem Markt mit bekannten 50cc, 125cc und 200cc Motoren.

Die 50er und 125er Roller sind lagernd. Bestellungen für die 200er nehmen wir ab April 2017 an. Wir waren übrigens der erste Händler für Scomadi in Österreich.

Die 300er bauen wir! Das ist kein Roller von der Stange! Hier kommt die komplette Technik der Vespa GTS 300 ABS Euro4 zum Einsatz. Die wiederum aus nagelneuen Vespa GTS 300 aus 2017 stammen, weil diese auf Elektromotoren umgebaut werden. Das ist übrigens auch ein Produkt aus unseren Ideen. Die 400er kommt 2018 und ebenfalls 2018 kommt eine 250er mit Handschaltung! Somit gibt es ab 2018 wieder einen neuen Blechschaltroller zu kaufen!

Scomadi Turismo Leggera 50. Der Einstieg ab 15 Jahren

Scomadi Turismo Leggera 125. Der Rekordroller!

Scomadi Turismo Leggera 200. Der im Herzen Österreicher! Dieser 200er Motor wurde ursprünglich mal bei Rotax entwickelt. Die Scomadi TL200 machte ihn auf Euro4!

Scomadi TT 125. Der Blechroller mit luftgekühlten 4 Takt Motor. Euro4! Ab sofort lieferbar!

Scomadi TT 200s. Der Blechroller mit Wassergekühlten Rotax Motor. ABS und Euro4 . Ab 02/2019

Scomadi TT 450 5 Speed. Das ist der Ultimative Blechschaltroller mit 450cc und 5 Gang Schaltung, ABS und Euro4. Wird ab Mitte 2019 ausgeliefert! Preis der Kleinserie 9.900,-


Flyer Scomadi TT: Brochure_Scomadi_TT.pdf
http://ww.sqooter.com/flyer/2018/Brochu ... adi_TT.pdf


scomadi weiß nichts über einen 450er SCHALTroller:
http://www.scomadi.com/


sluk macht wie immer wieder werbung für scomadi ideen und prototypen
zum 400er automat proto gibts 2 artikel:



1ST MARCH 2018
https://scooterlab.uk/scomadi-400-1000k ... ad-test-2/

Zitat:
The Scomadi 400 is a much talked about scooter among those who like traditional lines coupled with modern power. It’s been shown a few times, even taken on short test rides, in fact, myself and Sticky bagged the exclusive first road test last August (you can read about it here) but until now it has never been taken out for a real-world journey. That was until the nice folk at Scomadi allowed Andy Gillard from ScooterNova magazine to become the first journalist to take the prototype 400 for a good long proper test ride. Here’s how he got on…



Iggy



SLUK 72-10


First things first; this scooter is still very much a prototype. It is still at least a year away from production as I write, and as such the scooter you see here is little more than a show pony that has been made good for the road. To begin with, the final bodywork is likely to be made of pressed steel rather than plastic. The current chassis is unique to this motor, as are the forks, with the bodywork you see before you simply adapted from an older production Scomadi. The fuel tank is little more than a container that contains petrol with a manual fuel tap currently fitted.



The final production machine will also have a centre stand rather than the side stand on the prototype. Other features will include the regulatory rearview mirrors and other such items, but of course what we were evaluating during our time with the Scomadi 400 was how it performed in the real world rather than whether it had mirrors or if we could get our sandwiches stored inside the legshield glovebox.



SLUK 72-17


The Plan



The road trip includes a ride back home from Scomadi HQ in Lancashire before heading to the port of Hull, catching a ferry across to the Netherlands and then riding to the Scooterist Meltdown event in Germany. There the Austrian Scomadi importer, Sqooter, had a display stand and, together with British Scomadi dealer Wildcat Scooters, would be offering short test rides to interested parties.



By the time I was back home, I had clocked up over 1000 kilometres on the scooter, many of them with a pillion on board and luggage too. The perfect way to learn how customers can expect this scooter to perform when it enters production in 2019. The trip was also to provide some valuable R&D feedback for Scomadi themselves. Every mile ridden in different conditions provides vital information, allowing them to hone the product further.



The Hull to Rotterdam ferry queue with a few other winter riders
The Hull to Rotterdam ferry queue with a few other winter riders
The production version will come with a centre stand
The production version will come with a centre stand
The Power Source



From a personal point of view, like many I suppose, I have a soft spot for modern sports scooters. The 2-stroke Gilera Runner 180 broke the 125cc ceiling back in the 1990s for this class, and when 4-stroke engines started to take over in popularity, it was the Italians who did their best to keep things exciting. Aprilia gave us the Leonardo 250, Gilera the Nexus 250, Benelli the Velvet 250, and then the Velvet 400. That engine was a 383cc 4-stroke, liquid-cooled single cylinder produced by Morini Franco Motori spa, who also supplied it to Malaguti for their Madison maxi-scooter. Morini produced a number of scooter and motorcycle engines for various manufacturers, and had a relationship with Suzuki too. The engines in their first Burgman 400s were pretty much a longer version of the Morini 400 (or Morini’s was a shorter version of the Suzuki engine, depending on who drew the first blueprint I suppose).



Anyway, the Morini version of the engine is the one in this here Scomadi, because Scomadi have purchased the rights and tooling to produce these engines now themselves at their own factory. The motor in the prototype has a carburettor fitted complete with a manual choke, but the production Scomadi 400 will have fuel injection, potentially giving more performance and better fuel economy than the current prototype.



Add all this together with the minimal body styling of the Scomadi – compared to some modern scooters of similar engine capacity ­– and in my opinion, the 400 has the potential to be a proper sports scooter.



SLUK 72-13
SLUK 72-12


How fast is it mister?



Riding the Scomadi 400 prototype on long motorway journeys, holding it at full throttle with a load on board was the name of the game for a good part of this test, along with a pleasant mix of B-road fun and a bit of local commuting. The first thing noted was that it was surprisingly smooth, despite the PM Tuning exhaust which had a tone that suggested it would be a little harsher. It was also pretty comfortable two-up as well, despite the renowned wideness of the Scomadi range as a whole. The pillion reported it was easier on the back of the 400 with longer boards, than trying to reach for the foot-pegs on the back of a Vespa GTS. Neither of us reported any fatigue or discomfort throughout the entire journey. The Vespa of course is the obvious comparison with its classic lines and acclaimed performance. As it happened, our journey into Europe was alongside a couple of Vespa GTS scooters, a 250 and a 300, both with just a rider on board and their luggage. As you’d probably expect, the Scomadi 400, even with a pillion, had the legs away from a standing start – remember, even the Vespa GTS 300 has only 278cc to talk about. What really impressed one of my riding companions on a GTS however was the acceleration the Scomadi had at speed.



Cruising along in the middle lane at 65-70mph, overtaking from there on the 400 was noticeably easier and required less planning than my friend on his Vespa. Once he was up to 75mph for example, he tried to avoid having to slow down because it would take a while to get back up again. On the Scomadi however, it was far less of an issue. The top speed I recorded by the way was just over 143 km/h, which is nigh-on 90mph. This was enough to keep up with a Suzuki DRZ 400 motorcycle-engined scooter (also riding with a pillion) on the way, for short stints of the journey. Scomadi tell me that they are still working on the injection system and their aim is to have a genuine top speed a little higher still, on the final production scooters.






Handling



With regards to handling and suspension, the weather (we enjoyed strong winds, snow and heavy rain) didn’t give much opportunity to fully test the running gear, but the Scomadi 400 remained sure-footed while cornering, albeit I reckon they set their suspension up a little hard for daily use over our notoriously bumpy road surfaces.



As a prototype, there were a number of areas on the 400 that are far from being finalised, which meant making some allowances along the way. One of these was fuel; with the tank being baffle-less and of unknown capacity, as the level dropped riding full-throttle for long periods could induce starvation, necessitating a refuel earlier than planned. Mind you that of course was better than running out and pushing it! Regarding petrol consumption, it was on a par with the Vespa GTSs we were riding with, when ridden in a similar motorway style. Once again, the fuel-injected production scooter should see improvements in this area too.




Video | ON THE ROAD
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Scorpion Scooter Exhausts

scomadi 400 1
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Verdict



So what do I reckon? If this is the style you like and you’re after something that will out perform a Vespa GTS 300, then the Scomadi 400 has the potential to be right up your alley. Granted there is no underseat storage and for those with a shorter inside leg it is a taller scooter to ride than Piaggio’s finest, but then that will all depend on how much you want it. The difference in top speed may not be a lot, but from the 1000 kilometres I’ve just ridden, having that little bit of extra acceleration too was the cherry on the cake. If you’re a long distance touring rider who currently favours another modern auto, then the Scomadi 400 has the potential to be a game-changer when it eventually arrives in the showrooms.



No production date has been set at the time of writing, although 2019 is what Scomadi are aiming for. In the meantime, development will continue both with the engine and running gear, but Scomadi have said they will keep us here at SLUK updated with their progress.



Words: Andy Gillard, images Andy & Iggy


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17TH AUGUST 2017
https://scooterlab.uk/scomadi-tl-400-ex ... road-test/

Zitat:
Although many die-hard traditional scooter riders won’t even entertain a ‘lookalike’ model, like the Scomadi or ‘new’ Lambretta, there are plenty more who can see their appeal.



With a 400cc engine and a potential for 90mph top speeds this prototype has the potential to massively expand that appeal. The Scomadi 400 will bring modern retro scooter performance into a new era.



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Chassis



The prototype uses the existing TL bodywork but Frank Sanderson has been busy modifying the chassis to house a 400 engine, albeit the carb fed rather than fuel-injected version. The finished model may well look more cramped beneath the panels than the prototype once the fuel injection and ABS modules go in.



The new chassis has much wider frame rails, suitable not only for this Morini-based motor, but it’s also wide enough to take any of the latest 2-stroke performance engines designed for classic Lammies including the Casa SSR250 and the Targa Twin.



The 400 engine itself fits well enough in the chassis but the large clutch housing protrudes a bit, so the left hand panel had to be cut. The wheelbase is also longer than any other production Scomadi so the rear wheel fouled the bodywork slightly under load. A section of the rear frame beneath the number plate was trimmed for testing purposes. These are minor problems though and will be easy to overcome.




VIDEO | TL 400 in action


Wide-style Scomadi?



Although the bodywork on the TL 400 is just a set of recycled plastic TL 125 panels the scooter felt roomier to me. Looking at the riding shots it seems like I’m sitting further back than I ordinarily would. Perhaps because the engine is longer it makes you naturally sit further back? Either way, it felt spacious enough, and looked roomy when Sticky was riding it as well. Extra space is always worth having, even if it’s perceived rather than physical. Either way the bodywork will need some alteration before production begins.



I asked Frank about the possibility of them building an even more retro inspired version. Anybody fancy a 400cc Scomadi with really retro styling?



It’s the natural next step, feel free to comment if you’d like to see one being produced.



The prototype as seen in Milan last year
The prototype as seen in Milan last year
TL 400 Sticky
Scomadi TL400, note development air box mod
Scomadi TL400, note development air box mod
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Italian engine



Of course you all want to know about the engine and how it performs. It’s performance figures that will make any ‘not sure’ die-hards contemplate parting with their money. Scomadi have bought the rights and tooling to the existing Franco Morini 385cc engine that was used in the Malaguti Madison 400. The Madison (and Maluguti as a manufacturer) is long gone but the engine was based on the single cylinder, 4-valve Suzuki Burgman lump. Morini built it under licence in Italy at the time.



Scomadi are updating the old carb-fed engine to meet and exceed Euro 4 specs, in fact they’re planning to make it to Euro 5 specs in order to give it a longer shelf-life.



How many horses?



This standard carb-fed engine made 28bhp at the rear wheel (a GTS 300 makes around 17.5), but it is the torque output that is more impressive. By the time the 400 goes into production it’ll have been switched over to modern fuel-injection and digital ignition, and the gearing will have been sorted to make best use of the power in the Scomadi chassis. When Euro 5 legislation arrives in 2020 anti-tampering measures will be included to prevent new machines being tuned or modified by the owner, Scomadi aim to get the best out of this engine before Euro 5 arrives.



Scomadi are also still deciding where to get the engines made. Currently the tooling remains in Italy and all of the previous 3rd-party suppliers (like Vertex for pistons and Gilardoni for the cylinder) have agreed to make the required parts. Alternatively, there are variations of this engine being made for quad bikes in Asia that have already been converted to fuel injection.



Used and abused



The engine in the scooter we rode was a used Malaguti lump, mileage unknown but it ran well enough, even though Scomadi were waiting for a new belt to arrive for it. The used engine suits their purposes for testing and development and it gave us a chance to see how the chassis copes with the extra weight and power.



Bodges



Remember this is a development machine, built to evaluate changes. The exhaust on the prototype was simply a 250 Scomadi pipe modified to fit. Secondly the airbox (a very important part of any four-stroke) was adapted in a Heath Robinson way using a lump of plastic as a spacer to increase the volume and a sliding ‘front door’ to allow it to be fine-tuned easily. It’s a development tool but actually works quite well.



On the road



The 400 barks into life through the Scomadi exhaust, it’s not overly loud, especially in comparison to the Stage 4 Scomadi 200 we rode alongside it but it does pop quite a bit as you let the throttle off. It’s a trait of this particular exhaust as un-burnt fuel ignites in the silencer





Well planted



If you’ve ever ridden a Suzuki Burgman you’ll recognise the momentary lag before the centrifugal clutch engages as you accelerate. Don’t panic though; it’s still rapid from a standing start. The 400 will leave a GTS for dust and the pretty nippy stage 4 Scomadi 200 was left behind quite quickly as well. The good thing about the way Frank has designed the 400 is that the engine sits nice and low and as centrally as possible in the frame. This gives it a great weight distribution; this is translated to a well-planted feeling on the road.



Whilst we were at Scomadi HQ in Lancashire we rode four different variants, the 125 air-cooled, 125 LC, stage 4 200 and the 400, this gave us a chance to compare differences.



Sporty feeling



The 400 handled better than all of the others, the suspension both front and rear was well damped and the scooter was sure footed. Most other Scomadis are hard on the front end and lack feel. This is something the firm are working hard to correct on their forthcoming Thai-built models, with a forthcoming developmet they call Plush-ride suspension. With the 400 they’re certainly heading in the right direction. The demo scooter sported wide forks, these will be replaced by a new twin disc front wheel and narrow forks. You can see the new wheel in the video.



Style it up



We’ll not concentrate too much on the aesthetics of our test bike; by the time this scooter arrives (probably late 2018, early 2019) it will most likely have different bodywork, equipment and features. Not to mention the steel panels, running boards, leg shields and mudguard. It’ll also have an alloy headset bottom and the latest trapezoid style clocks.





Worn belt



Despite the engine being used, having a worn belt and not having the gearing set up perfectly it felt quick enough. If you’re used to a GTS 300 you can expect to see a useful 10mph extra on the top end with the Scomadi 400. The chassis copes with the power and speed very well, it’s a great weapon for playing around the twisties and should be fantastic for cruising at decent motorway speeds.



Twin discs



The scooter we rode just had standard disc brakes at both ends, none of this new fangled modern ABS or linked braking. Of course the production model will have ABS as standard. The single rear/front disc set up worked well but you can begin to feel the limits of the front disc when you’re pushing hard; a twin disc set up will certainly be needed. Braking mid-corner also made the scooter feel like it was trying to stand itself up.



Similarly you could feel the scooter starting to squirm slightly around corners at speed, the suspension and chassis were just about reaching their limits for the available power, but don’t take that in a negative way. It lets you feel what’s happening beneath you and allows you to feel like you’re a part of it. To me that makes for a more involving riding experience than some perfectly set up superbike.

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Conclusion



Although we may well have to wait over a year, (maybe two) to see a production ready version of the Scomadi TL 400 in the shops, I think it’ll be worth waiting for.



Providing quality from the Thai factory is as good as we hope, the metalwork and styling tweaks are in keeping and the engine itself is as quick as the demo scooter, then this could be THE sports scooter to own. It needs to be comparable on price to a GTS as well. We’ll have to wait and see though, such massive developments don’t happen overnight but once the legal issues are dealt with (one way or another) at the end of September, Scomadi should be able to get back on track and hopefully win back some disgruntled dealers and customers.



Paul Melici (middle) and Frank Sanderson (right) earlier this year sealing the Thai factory partnership
Paul Melici (middle) and Frank Sanderson (right) earlier this year sealing the Thai factory partnership


For more on the latest developments at Scomadi, read this article.



Words: Iggy

Photos: Sticky & Iggy

Video: Sticky


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Regular SLUK readers will know that there’s been a lot going on in the retro automatic scooter market in the past year with Scomadi, Royal Alloy (Royalloy or R.A, depending on the week) and now ‘new Lambretta’ entering the mix.



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At the beginning of the year I mentioned the Scomadi 400 scooter that was premiered at the Milan Motorcycle Show in November 2016. This raised quite a bit of interest, so here are some more details for those eagerly awaiting its arrival.

scomadi 400cc scooter 1Background on Scomadi
Firstly, the Scomadi brand has been in the news a lot recently with regards to an 'issue' relating to their former production facility in China.

For those who don't know, Scomadi was born from a concept created by two British scooter enthusiasts, Paul Melici and Frank Sanderson a number of years ago now. They began by hand-building the first Scomadi scooters at their HQ in Lancashire and offering limited edition runs to keen customers.

After a few years of using Piaggio engines, the supply dried up as the Italian giant changed its policy. This, combined with demand for more affordable scooters of varying capacities saw Scomadi take the brave decision to invest in overseas mass production. The result of this was a tie-up with Hanway in China to produce 50cc, 125cc and 200cc Scomadi scooters which were sold worldwide, quickly gaining a large global following.

Scomadi Production Moves To Thailand
Early this year, Scomadi announced that production was shifting to Thailand with a new partner there. In the mean time, it seems, the original Chinese factory has decided to continue producing Scomadi-type scooters but instead has offered them to an alternative British importer wearing a different brand name.

For more detailed look at how this situation has progressed, you can check out the Clone Wars article on SLUK.

The Scomadi 400 Scooter
scomadi 400cc scooter 4Back to Scomadi and in Milan in 2016 I had a chat with Paul and Frank about the new 400. First of all, Scomadi have purchased the design, intellectual property rights, tooling and moulds for a 400cc scooter engine from Moto Morini that had in the past been used by Malaguti and Benelli amongst others. Having test ridden it back then, and knowing it is basically a shorter version of the original Suzuki Burgman 400 motor, I can suggest that the Scomadi 400 will be an exciting scooter to ride regarding performance. In fact, with a style more like the old Benelli Velvet rather than the feet-forward maxi-scooter styled Madison and Burgman, the Scomadi should prove a real hoot in burning off other two wheelers on the road as well as being great fun to throw around corners too!

In Milan Paul told me; “The engine is just going through evaluation. We plan to squeeze a little more power out of it and obviously we’re going fuel-injection for Euro4 regulations and adding ABS with Bosch. It should be putting out roughly between 28hp and 32hp by the time we’ve finished with it, at the back wheel."

A new chassis will be developed for the 400, stiffer and with wider forks. There will be twin disc brakes at the front for stopping power and the wheels are planned to be 13" diameter. Meanwhile, beneath the seat they are currently working on the development of a larger fuel tank too.

scomadi 400cc scooter 3Unfortunately there is still the best part of a year of prototyping to go and a final pre-production model is not expected to be unveiled until the Milan how in 2017. That said, Scomadi told me that once that's done production itself is anticipated for the early part of 2018, although understandably they are unable to be any more precise at this stage. Until then, Scomadi fans will have to satisfy themselves with the current range of retro styled models, albeit the liquid-cooed 200cc version also show at Milan in 2016 could satisfy a few eager beavers when that arrives on these shores.

So the good news is that the scooter market (currently rather mediocre in my opinion) is soon to get a boot up the derriere from a relatively new upstart in the showrooms, and one with a British team behind the development.

The bad news is that this won't happen until 2018. Still, at least that gives us time to start saving…


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Wenn man sich das ganze GSF Topic durchliest steht genau der Grund warum die TT450 als Blechschaltroller mit Motorradmotor gebaut wird und nicht eine 400er.

Derzeit baut keiner den 400er Automatikmotor und deshalb kommt die Scomadi 400 (dann auch als TT) nicht vor 2020.

Bei der TT450 gibt es alle Teile und die Motoren haben Euro4 bzw Euro5. Deshalb wurde der Roller vorgezogen. Der Roller bekommt eine EU Genehmigung und coc Papiere
Danach kommen einige Ableger mit Rotax bzw KTM Motoren. Denn wenn man einen Motorradmotor mit Euronorm drinnen hat kann man ihn auch durch einen Euro4 KTM Motor ersetzen. Das bringe ich auch so in Österreich durch.

Eine 400er oder 450er wird immer ein Nischenprodukt sein. Die Masse wird sicher mit 125cc und 200cc geliefert.


Übrigens gezeigt wird die TT450 schon auf der Bike in Tulln.

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